Sabrina Welsz: Well, I found that once I became a mother, I actually became more productive because I just realized how little time I had to do shit, so I had to just like cram it all in when I could, so I actually got a lot more done even though I was exhausted. And it does it like pinpoints your focus to like what do you really want to do because you got to make the most of the time that you have.
Automated: You're listening to the MILF podcast. This is the show where we talk about motherhood and sexuality with amazing women with fascinating stories to share on the joys of being a Milf. Now here's your host, the Milfiest Milf I know Jennifer Tracy.
Jennifer Tracy: Hey guys. Welcome back to the show. This is MILF podcast, the show where we talk about motherhood entrepreneurship, sexuality and everything in between. I'm Jennifer Tracy, your host. Last night was the live show. I am so high from it. It was just so amazing. I can't believe the magic of this night. It really just was spectacular. I'm so grateful for this incredible crew of women that came together to make it happen, including everyone in the audience and some awesome men showed up as well. So I can't wait to do it again.
Jennifer Tracy: I'm going to regroup and curate another awesome evening for you guys. But in the meantime, you get to listen here and enjoy. So please enjoy MILF podcast live at the Dynasty Typewriter Theater at the Hayworth in Los Angeles.
Jennifer Tracy: Look at these beautiful, beautiful, beautiful, beautiful audience. Welcome to the Dynasty Typewriter Theater at the Hayworth. I'm just going to set my security water down here, and Christina Grance everybody. So, Christina was my first pole dancing teacher, and I was 99 point 100% sure I was gay for the first three months that I was taking class with her. And I remember telling Sabrina over lunch one day, I was like, "I don't know, I think I'm... I just have these feelings watching her dance, like something's happening." And then I said, "I'm pretty sure if she asked me to, then I would lick her pussy." And I still would, I think, pretty sure. Sorry Brad, her husband.
Jennifer Tracy: Anyway, so we're here at the lovely Dynasty Typewriter. I just want to thank the theater and everyone who works here and the staff, and Jamie and Vanessa for having me. It's such an honor to be on the stage. This is an incredible venue. They have a lot of really top rated comedians and other podcasting shows. So I hope you'll come back and check out other shows and even though this is going to be the best one you're ever going to see. So you guys, I turned 44 last month.
Jennifer Tracy: Thank you. I mean I feel good, I feel milfy, I feel really good, but there's something new that's happening and it's called night sweats. Yeah. What the fuck? Fuck that shit. I don't understand. Like I just... Every month, right before my period, I just wake up completely drenched in night sweats. And so I'm like looking for solutions online, searching late night, what's the solution to this? And someone suggested, "Oh, you should just stop drinking caffeine." And I'm like, "Fuck you, I'm not going to stop drinking caffeine."
Jennifer Tracy: I drink PG Tips with milk and honey, like most moms drink [Rosey 00:03:21] first thing in the morning on the way to school and throughout the day as needed, and I'm not going to give that up. And so the other night it happened, this is a true story, I was having a dream where I was in an episode of Handmaid's Tale, true story, but in this dream it was this weird foresty internment camp. It wasn't the Gilead that's on the show. It was like like Katy Perry's version of Gilead. I had punked out hair and this cool pink shift on.
Jennifer Tracy: And then I noticed there was a mirror in the dream in the middle of the forest of course, because that's where they have mirrors. And I looked at my mouth was all red and I was like, "Oh my God, I've been gagged and kidnapped." Not in the fun way. And it reminded me that I needed to go get my lip waxed and my nose hair... Do you guys get your nose hair waxed?
Audience: Yeah.
Jennifer Tracy: Right?
Audience: Yeah.
Jennifer Tracy: Oh my God, it's so fun. Okay. If you don't do this, you have... Okay, they take like a lollipop stick and they dip it in the hot wax and then they put it out and then they shove it up your nostril and then they wait and they do this, and they wait and then they yank it out. And you've got like a mini truffle, a tree.
Jennifer Tracy: So, I'm in Gilead, Katy Perry's Gilead, and I'm like, "Okay, this sucks." And then I look and I see there's a little kitchenette and there's an electric kettle and there's a box of PG Tips with honey and milk. And then there's a scuttle around me and some other handmaids are escaping, but I could just reach the electric kettle and the PG Tips. So I think I'm just going to go for it. I'm going to go make my tea and then I'm going to bring it home with me, and so I'm starting to make it and one of the Martha's grabs my wrist and she's like, "You can't have that, that's only for the commanders and their wives, you get dirt mint leaf tea." And she puts it in my cup and pours lukewarm water over it and I'm just about to fly into a fucking rage on this bitch and I wake up drenched in sweat.
Jennifer Tracy: It's just, I don't like it at all. I'm not happy with it. Is Anyone following the Epstein trials? Speaking of Gilead. Okay, I just have to flip this for a second. If a woman had that kind of money and power, I'm not... I'm sure that women are capable of evil things, right? I just don't see it. I feel like if I... Okay, let's set aside the fact that he's sadistic and sociopathic for a second. Let's just say a woman had that kind of money and power and a sex addiction. If it was me, I would hire a team of professionals to curate a list of highly qualified male escorts over the age of 35, that's another story. I went on the dating apps and I did the whole, like the actual Milf, thing where like these young... Anyway, that's a whole other story.
Jennifer Tracy: I learned what ass play was. I was like, "What? What do you want? No, I'm going home, I'm going home, no, his ass not mine." When that became clear, I was like, "I'm out of here." So anyway, I would have them flown these male escorts over 35 to my various homes, [Santra 00:06:43] Miami, Paris, once a month, fuck my brains out and then go because I have work to do. I can't keep track of all these things that Epstein has, like these torture chambers with dental things and passports. And I don't even... What are you doing? Go.
Jennifer Tracy: Because if a woman had that kind of money and power, she would be busy mothering her children, running her CEO of her company, treating her girlfriends to the best things life has to offer and giving back to the world. And my right?
Audience: Yeah.
Jennifer Tracy: So, I really feel strongly that part of his... When they do have the trial, whenever that happens, part of his punishment should be to... They should liquidate all of his assets and distributed evenly amongst all women in the world and see what happens. So, but I... Kidding aside, I really do think like forgiveness and humility is the key to life. And so I did want to just read this mother Theresa quote, because I feel like even if we can forgive the most evil people, that gives us peace.
Jennifer Tracy: She says, "People are often unreasonable and self centered, forgive them anyway. If you are kind, people may accuse you of ulterior motives, be kind anyway. If you're honest, people may cheat you. Be honest anyway. If you find happiness, people may be jealous. Be Happy Anyway. The good you do today may be forgotten tomorrow. Do good anyway. Give the world the best you have and it may never be enough. Give your best anyway. For you see, in the end it is between you and God. It was never between you and them anyway." Mother Teresa.
Jennifer Tracy: I got one right? So good. So you guys, I will be very quick to forgive the people that castrate Jeffrey Epstein and throw his balls and cock to the hounds from game of Thrones. I will forgive them you guys. Are you ready to meet our guests?
Audience: Yeah.
Jennifer Tracy: Okay, so done with that. So straight from the Sound Booth is Sabrina Weisz. Sabrina is a voice over artist, most known for voicing two characters on the animated series, Miraculous Ladybug. She began acting at the age of 10. Sabrina as an improviser, playwright director and most importantly mom of two teenagers. Give it up for Sabrina Weisz.
Jennifer Tracy: Okay. Wendy Miller is an Emmy winning producer and comedy writer. For seven and a half years, she was the head of programming for playboy TV, where her entire understanding of sex, pleasure, shame, and sexuality completely evolved. Wendy is now host of the wildly hilarious podcast, Sex Ed The Musical, that inspires women to step away from all the judgment and shame we've been socialized to carry about sex. It's time to advocate for our own pleasure. And Wendy Miller is leading the charge one vagina at a time. Wendy Miller, you can never know. You never know.
Wendy Miller: Maybe later.
Jennifer Tracy: Our third guest, someone that you saw earlier dancing on that pole. I just still... I get like she Fitzy when sham I'm around her. I can't help it. Christina Grance is the founder of Serpent Lane affordable size, inclusive lingerie that's provocative and fun. No Shit. She is the mom of one two year old boy and the dancer you just saw moments ago captivating your souls. Christina is a leader in the movement community, empowering women to reclaim their erotic bodies. She is also a writer and her website and travel blog is found at liveawilderlife.com. Ladies and gentlemen, Christina Grance.
Jennifer Tracy: Thank God. You guys, this is actually happening. I kind of can't believe it. I'm going to put this here.
Christina G.: You know what's interesting, this is the second event this week I've been at that mentioned ass play and Mother Teresa.
Jennifer Tracy: What?
Christina G.: Yeah. I don't know, something out there. Check Instagram or something. It's a thing.
Jennifer Tracy: Is it a thing?
Christina G.: It's a thing.
Jennifer Tracy: Is it a hashtag?
Christina G.: Yeah, I guess so.
Jennifer Tracy: I hope not. I don't want Mother Theresa to be Hashtag with ass play.
Christina G.: Right. True.
Jennifer Tracy: I don't how she'd feel about that. Maybe she's liberated.
Christina G.: Theresa ass play.
Jennifer Tracy: Theresa ass play. Hi Ladies?
Christina G.: Hi.
Wendy Miller: Hello.
Jennifer Tracy: Can we just talk about for a second how hot Christina's dance was?
Wendy Miller: Oh my God. So hot. I got to watch it from the booth and I got to like, just feel the whole vibe of the audience. It was amazing. So good.
Jennifer Tracy: Yeah, it's powerful, right? When a woman's in her sexuality. So how is it for you post child dancing like that because I know you've been dancing like that for a while. Is it any different? What's changed for you?
Christina G.: Well, I'm a lot more tired. I'm guessing a little pee comes out when you invert [inaudible 00:11:58] personal experience aside. That may have happened. I mean, not really though, first and foremost well, the physical exhaustion is a little different, but that aside, just the fact that I'm more tired is that I'm also deeper, like I feel there's something about having a child and way it just kind of rips apart having time to think that it lets me just go deeper faster because there's just no time to just mess with that.
Jennifer Tracy: That makes so much sense.
Christina G.: Yeah.
Jennifer Tracy: There's freedom in that. Yeah. I think too, and as we get older, that's like... I love being now in my mid forties, this is just going to fall open like this, so I'm not going to mess with it.
Christina G.: Oh, what an accident. Oops. Totally didn't plan that.
Jennifer Tracy: What about you guys, Sabrina and Wendy, do you feel that like a deepening or like a less, I call it zero fucks. I just feel like I give way less fucks about things that I didn't... That I... Yeah.
Sabrina Welsz: Well, I found that once I became a mother, I actually became more productive because I just realized how little time I had to do shit. So I had to just like cram it all in when I could. So I actually got a lot more done even though I was exhausted. And it does, it pinpoints your focus to like what do you really want to do because you got to make the most of the time that you have when you're not tending to the little ones crawling on around.
Jennifer Tracy: And what about, how does sex fit into that?
Sabrina Welsz: Oh, here we go. Well I would say launching into the sex talk. Well I will say when they were super tiny, like we didn't have much sex at all.
Jennifer Tracy: No.
Sabrina Welsz: Am I alone? Okay, great. Okay. I [inaudible 00:13:47] for two reasons, I'm exhausted, right? Just completely exhausted and also just feeling like I don't want another... I don't want like more skin on my skin because with breastfeeding and it's like you're constantly holding the baby, I just want to not have somebody on me, so I mean, it gets better though. My kids are teenagers, so I can say that like now that they're independent little human being, well not little, they're giant actually. They're more independent, so I'm finding I'm getting so much of my own self back.
Sabrina Welsz: And so that also includes like sort of approaching sex with my husband in a kind of a fresh way. Kind of like... I wouldn't say like we're newlyweds, but, maybe we've been dating for a couple of years.
Jennifer Tracy: Oh, that's good.
Sabrina Welsz: I don't know. That doesn't sound any better. I don't know.
Christina G.: So hot. That's so hot. I have a 13 and a half year old daughter, so she's like a horny psychopath in the house most of the time, and she actually came into my bedroom, this true story. She came to her bedroom last night and everything it's always an epiphany when you're 13, everything is like what? And so she came in the bedroom last night and we were hanging out and she said, "In the time that I've been born, have you and dad had sex in this house?"
Jennifer Tracy: Shit.
Christina G.: And I said, "Are you asking me if your father and I have had sex in the last 13 and a half?" And she goes, "Yes." And I said, "Yes." Oh my God.
Jennifer Tracy: It's a little weird they would think that. It's so crazy.
Christina G.: Crazy. She was like obsessed. Because she know now she's at the point where she asks me questions and I happily answer them because I don't want to make sex weird. So, you just answered the question and move on. And so she will ask me some really ridiculous stuff. I would just answer it and she just shuts up and moves on. And it's kind of funny because-
Jennifer Tracy: I mean, I'm amazed that she feels comfortable to ask.
Christina G.: Well, look at me. I mean, why wouldn't she [inaudible 00:15:55]? I haven't-
Jennifer Tracy: Right. True.
Christina G.: There's no weirdness. It's just like she'll ask me, I mean she'll ask me a question and we use anatomically correct terms and we talk about stuff and they just want to kind of some of the answers don't tell them everything, but just answer it and move on.
Jennifer Tracy: Yeah, absolutely. Don't make it weird.
Christina G.: Don't I get weird.
Jennifer Tracy: No shame.
Christina G.: My kids don't want to see me kiss my husband, if we're affectional, if we do more than just a peck, my husband I, they like freak out and they're I'm like, "Stop it." Isn't that weird? I think that's weird. I don't know what that's about. I don't remember because my parents were never demonstrative towards one another or me really, which explains the pole dancing.
Jennifer Tracy: So much of this makes sense now.
Christina G.: Right?
Wendy Miller: Me too Jenn. That's why we both have pole dancing [crosstalk 00:16:40]
Jennifer Tracy: That's it.
Wendy Miller: Yeah. I would have loved if my parents were kissing.
Jennifer Tracy: Yeah. My parents never were. They were just... mm-mm (negative). So how is... By the way, just by applause, like who in the audience is currently sexually active?
Jennifer Tracy: Yes. You mean like right the second? Because things just got weird.
Wendy Miller: Whose having sex right now?
Jennifer Tracy: It's kind of weird.
Wendy Miller: It's pretty dark back there. They could be. I would love that. I would love that happening.
Jennifer Tracy: Got a whole vibe in my underwear right now. I'm just going crazy. I'll give somebody here, I'll throw you the controller out there on five go crazy. Oh thanks. I do have one of those by the way. I got the remote control vibrator where it's like someone from across the room controls it, but I found out the hard way that they're all on the same frequency. So if you're at a party with another freak, let's say your husband wants to give you a little zap, someone might drop a tray in the back of the room. That's because she's on the same frequency.
Wendy Miller: Oh my God, that's really[crosstalk 00:17:51]
Jennifer Tracy: [inaudible 00:17:52] situation at the cat and the fiddle. I'm still sorting this out. Well, it's not my fault. I didn't design it. That sounds like a great idea for a theme party.
Wendy Miller: Oh yeah. Right? I'm thinking that too.
Jennifer Tracy: Let's do it actually.
Wendy Miller: I was actually, yeah.
Jennifer Tracy: Like you don't know, you go in, you have your thing in your... what is it in your underwear?
Wendy Miller: Well, you put it anywhere you want. I mean, it's like a little bullet thing, you can put it where you want.
Jennifer Tracy: All right. But, vagina, whatever.
Wendy Miller: And then you gave someone else the controller and the crazy thing is I can do it like sporadic or they can hold that shit now she's like, it's crazy.
Jennifer Tracy: What's is the name of this apparatus?
Wendy Miller: Oh, I can get up, check my show notes, there'll be all in there. A little side humor.
Jennifer Tracy: I'm serious. I think we should do a theme [inaudible 00:18:44].
Wendy Miller: Screaming, "Oh." Makes one and the controllers a little ring. It's like Doctor Evil Ring. It's got a hidden button on it , you push it and then your partners underpants start to vibrate it. By the way, it's great at like a Korean restaurants, places that are allowed, but you don't want to do this at Musso and Frank or something because it's loud and people at the other table hear that shit feel like, so anyway, darling I'm [inaudible 00:19:14]. The hell's happening?
Wendy Miller: So, you want to go to like Korean barbecue or Chipotle.
Jennifer Tracy: Oh my gosh.
Wendy Miller: It works really well. Chipotle.
Jennifer Tracy: Wendy, have you always been into sex toys or did that develop over time or with the introduction of Playboy?
Wendy Miller: No. I mean I grew up in a house with like zero weirdness about sex and that was fine. But no, I mean I totally came into my own when I started working at Playboy. I mean, I had stuff, but working at playboy, it was like working at ground zero of smut and it was just a blast because I just started to create TV shows just so they'd deliver sex toys to my office. But, I kind of want some Hitachi magic wand, let's do a Hitachi show and then this shit would just show up. So it really wasn't my deal until I got to Playboy. I was always fine with it.
Jennifer Tracy: And did your husband just sort of say, "Great." Or did he go, "Oh no."
Wendy Miller: No. My husband is the most... He's like a Vulcan. My husband is like he's dragged kicking and screaming into my smarty life. He's like Prim and proper and never swears when he gets really mad he says, "God bless America." He doesn't swear. So it's like Donny Osmond being married to a whore. My house.
Jennifer Tracy: Oh, no. that's the opposite of Ezra.
Wendy Miller: Yes, it is the opposite of Ezra. My husband is... This is so funny because my biggest fear, I don't know why, is that my kids will like listen to this one day because they don't even like us to kiss, can you imagine? They'd be like, "Oh my God." [crosstalk 00:20:43]
Jennifer Tracy: Wait a minute. Wait a minute. Ezra taught my son, he's uncle Ezra to my son [blooms 00:20:48]. He taught him what a taint is.
Wendy Miller: In the car, right?
Jennifer Tracy: Somebody had to teach him.
Wendy Miller: Somebody had-
Jennifer Tracy: ... in car at the dodger and then he taught him the Nantucket poem. Limerick. Only one person knows the Nantucket Limerick? Sort of? [crosstalk 00:21:06] I don't. All I know was the punchline. There was a man from Nantucket whose dick was so long he could suck it. He said with a grin as he wiped off his chin. If my ear was a cunt, I could fuck it. Did Not teach him that version. He said that he said cunt?
Wendy Miller: Yes he did.
Jennifer Tracy: He said cunt. Oh, well I apologize. I was with my blessing. I was in the car, it's fine.
Wendy Miller: But he was so tiny. He was like eight.
Jennifer Tracy: Did Dr Seuss, write that? [crosstalk 00:21:40] came from?
Wendy Miller: Oh, my God. Well, my husband wanted to be a sex therapist when he was a kid. Like that's what you did. If he didn't go into show business he would have been a sex therapist because he was like, he listened to Dr Ruth when he was living in New Jersey in his room, because I was just like fascinated. Can't you see this little Jewish boy listening on a second floor of his New Jersey House. Listening to Dr Ruth on the radio. Oh yes. On his radio. Oh yes. On his radio.
Jennifer Tracy: That is adorable.
Wendy Miller: And his mom would come in and he's out listening to Dr Ruth and so she'd sit and they both listened to it together. It was adorable.
Jennifer Tracy: Well now I want to ask Christina, because you're in the thick of it, you have a two year old, is there sex happening?
Christina G.: Yes. I mean, in the first year there wasn't a lot.
Wendy Miller: Wow, really? Well and no one here is surprised?
Christina G.: I see people who have Irish twins and I'm always amazed by them. The Irish twin thing, like in the same year they already have another baby. And I think I always think about it because then I think in my mind about them having sex because I'm like, wow, you guys had sex. And then I think about the timing. I break it down. I'm like, they had to have had it two months afterwards, but they exist. These people exist.
Wendy Miller: I know. I remember going to heal quickly. I don't know. I mean it's just pretty tough down there for a long good long time.
Christina G.: Oh my God. I had third degree tearing and I had to sit on a donut, like a donut cushion.
Wendy Miller: This is hot. We should get back to the vibrators.
Christina G.: Let's hear more about your PC automators. So then I had a BJ.
Wendy Miller: So, Jennifer what's your favorite sex toy?
Christina G.: Yeah, Jennifer.
Jennifer Tracy: Actually some of my girlfriends just turned me onto this, what we call the orgasm machine and it is a Lilo, one of my favorite brands and it's just this thing that kind of sound like Silence of the Lambs , Claries give me your clitoris.
Wendy Miller: What in the actual fuck are you describing? Because, I know about sex toys and I don't know what a fucking Silence of the Lambs. Is it like a clitoral [crosstalk 00:24:04]-
Jennifer Tracy: No, I'm making it sick.
Wendy Miller: Is it a clitoral suction device? [crosstalk 00:24:05] womanizer?
Jennifer Tracy: It's a clitoral suction device. It fits in the palm of your hand and it just has this little... It looks like a little ... like it's out of a Dr Seuss book. Like some little Seuss is going to come picking out of it at any moment, but it just like sucks and it kind of moves and you just look at it and you go what? And then you just put it on your clitoris and then you're like, "Oh my fucking God."
Wendy Miller: That's the whole thing now is clitoral suction devices are like.
Jennifer Tracy: But it's too much. I liked it but it was like, I mean-
Wendy Miller: You could adjust the pressure on it. You don't have to put it out 10.
Jennifer Tracy: Even at a low pressure adjust, I mean and then the Lilo's have like a lot of different modulations, but it just was still, it was like, Oh man, I can only use that like every other month. It's too much.
Wendy Miller: So what are you use every other day? Analog? Nice.
Jennifer Tracy: Yeah. Old School.
Wendy Miller: Old school. You don't have to charge it or anything.
Jennifer Tracy: All you got to worry about is Carpal tunnel syndrome. That's about it. Nice.
Wendy Miller: You say what?
Jennifer Tracy: All you got to worry about is Carpal tunnel syndrome. That's all. Nice. You can go camping, you have to worry about batteries. That's cool. Yeah. What about you guys? How do you masturbate?
Christina G.: Well I just want to say that today I had to get rid of like six vibrators.
Jennifer Tracy: Get rid of why?
Christina G.: Yes. Because people keep on giving them to me. I get them gifted all the time and I mean thank you everyone. And I'm analog as well, old school and I've just never been a fan and so I keep on getting them and there's just a house inspection on my house today because they were selling my house and I had been trying to get rid of them and I had been like texting friends and being like, do you want all my vibrators? They've never been used. I'll mail them to you. Because I have a friend who's really into them, but I couldn't get rid of them. So I was like, God, they're going to rifle through my closet because at these inspections they go really in deep into your home. And so I was like, I'm sorry. And I like threw them all away
Wendy Miller: I think you can actually donate them to the library. Oh no, that's books. I'm sorry that's but never mind. Never mind. Sorry Sabrina.
Sabrina Welsz: Oh, you know what's funny is I had a bunch of old ones because I'm not like a big toy person either. But I had some up in a tall shelf in a cupboard that was really tall because I don't want the... When the kids were toddling around, I didn't want them to find them. And then we were cleaning out like cupboards recently too. And I just like unearthed all of these old... I mean, they were so like they don't look sleek like the ones do now. They've got like the battery pack that's like separate from it were like gods, and it's like all these pieces. So I just put them all in a bag and I put them in the dumpster and I thought this will be interesting. When they dump the trash out, like that's... She ended up in a landfill somewhere. I don't know.
Wendy Miller: You didn't feel bad.
Jennifer Tracy: I felt really bad. Do you feel bad?
Sabrina Welsz: Well, mine were just so... they're done.
Jennifer Tracy: [crosstalk 00:27:14] they had seen their day. Wendy.
Sabrina Welsz: So you know how when you go to the Langham and you get the Arugula Menu, it's like today's Arugula is a blue Arugula. So I think I have different vibrators or different sex products for different days, different moods, different times in my cycle. You want to get things done fast, Hitachi magic wand is a closer, right? That's good. A womanizer if I'm a high particularly spectacular. I just got a vibrating cock ring for the Vulcan in me.
Jennifer Tracy: Literally in you.
Sabrina Welsz: And this thing is a game changer because basically your partner turns into like a sex robot, which is, who doesn't want that, right? And so that thing is amazing. And that way, you can have orgasms. If you're having penetrative sex, you get direct contact with your clitoris. You can have all kinds of great orgasms that way. I got like some weavers, I got a lot of shit you guys I'm going to but I'm keeping mine, okay?
Jennifer Tracy: So Wendy is really at the forefront of this. Like her podcast is fabulous. You guys should listen to it. It's called Sex Ed the Musical or you get a lot more of this. Yeah. There it is.
Wendy Miller: Thank you.
Jennifer Tracy: And really, and we've talked about this before, like one of your main passions is actually educating the public about sex because it's a problem.
Wendy Miller: Yeah. But you know what? There is the doctor Ruth's of the world and other people had sex with Emily. I mean like they're really in that lane. And I think what I'm mostly interested in is first of all, just letting women know that we've all been socialized to have all this shame around sex. And I've been doing all these interviews recently and it's like Sex Ed, how your parents taught you. All these things basically become part of your sexual DNA and it's just not your fault that you might have some issues about sex.
Wendy Miller: What I'm doing on my show is just trying to normalize all this bullshit that we have to deal with. So there are people out there who can talk about your Bartholin gland all night. I'm more interested in talking to women about what makes you feel good, why that's totally okay and that you may be carrying around some sort of trauma or judgment or shame. And that's okay too because you're not alone and just get rid of it. Stop leaving pleasure on the table and start having fun. So I'm kind of like maybe more of a tour guide. I certainly love to educate women, but I think there're people who are really really good at that. And I think I'm kind of more of just like a regular person who figured a lot of stuff out and I just wanted to drag all my sisters along with me.
Jennifer Tracy: Yes, I love that. We need more of that. Yes. Amen.
Christina G.: And that was my experience too, like starting pole dancing when I did six years ago, it was like I discovered this gem inside of me and I'm sure many of you in the audience relate where it was like, oh my God, I have all this unfound sexuality and unfound sex drive and desire and capacity for pleasure or that I literally thought sex was just like... I though that was my role in sex.
Wendy Miller: Yeah, totally. We've become presentational and we were talking about this, how long it takes women after they first become sexually active to start realizing that there's pleasure in it for them and to start advocating for themselves. It can be up to 17 to 20 years. And think about when you lost your virginity and when you started to become a boss, bitch in bed if you have, and that's going to be probably at least 10 years. I talked about, I had 40 women showing up at my house for the blowjob class with Nina Hartley who lives across the street, for the cunnilingus class, I had six people show up. So there's a real gap in there with women and being able to advocate for our own pleasure especially when we've been socialize like that. So we just need to know about it and then change it.
Jennifer Tracy: Yeah. But then how do you... When you have... Say like I have a daughter, teenage daughter, as you do, how early should you start... I mean my kids know what sex is. We talk about sex, but like, I mean, I want her to have a healthy attitude towards sex, but thinking of her having sex with someone right now flips me out. I know it should.
Wendy Miller: The first thing you should be talking about is consent.
Jennifer Tracy: Sure. Yeah we have a lot [crosstalk 00:31:26]-
Wendy Miller: And also, you should let your daughter know, or your son know, or whomever that their genitals are for their pleasure, not someone else's pleasure.
Jennifer Tracy: That's a weird thing to just bring up to your teenager.
Wendy Miller: Not if you say it the way... And I got that the rust proofing on my Chevy. I mean, if you literally say it like it's just a fact with no judgment or shame attached to it. That's how we normalize all of this because this goes back to people who are saying, "Well, I don't want to educate my kids about sex because then they're going to be sexually active." They're going to be sexually active. The kids who are educated are the ones that make the better decisions. So if you're afraid if you say to your daughter, "Your genitals are for your pleasure." She's going to be like, "Yeah, who's next?"
Christina G.: Yeah. But you know, I also... What you're saying that it feels uncomfortable. I mean, I don't have a teenage daughter, so I'm giving advice based on, my own experience of being a teenager. I think even being able to say, I know this is uncomfortable, we're going to be uncomfortable together as we have this talk. Do you know it just broaching it of like, this is just as uncomfortable for me and we're going to just, we're going to go through the uncomfortable hump together.
Wendy Miller: Totally. One way to do it. Yeah. Whatever works for you. There's no right or wrong way. I mean, there's probably a lot of wrong ways, but...
Jennifer Tracy: That's true. I mean, I think as long as we talk about it, I, she's not dating anyone or anything, so it's not... That's why I think it hasn't been a conversation. I know that it's going to be, but I'm just like, well, she's not dating anyone, so when do I need to really get into the like specifics.
Wendy Miller: I'm doing a whole series of episodes...
Jennifer Tracy: She may not be dating, but her mind, I mean, I remember what my mind was like. Oh yeah. Right. It's hormones work have gone crazy, right?
Wendy Miller: I'm doing a whole series of episodes. I'm just starting to say where I'm asking all these women of different backgrounds and ages and all over the country, the same questions about what sex education they had when they lost their virginity, it's amazing the answers I'm getting and I'm finding, and I knew this from working at playboy, that the people who have been raised with the most prohibitive, shameful fundamental childhood, learning about sex and shame and don't do that and God's going to smite you and all this other shit. Those are the people who have trouble, and those are the people who generally act out in an opposite direction.
Wendy Miller: It's basically contrary to exactly what you want as a parent. But if you're more like, Yep, this is going on, your hormones are making you a psychopath, I know it, but here's what you need to know about and just make it just like a fact. The conversation has no shame. It's not charged. There's nothing creepy about it, so you can just have it.
Jennifer Tracy: Right. That makes so much sense, totally does. Yes. Right. Really good advice. That's good advice. Can you show us some more leg please? Thank you. I know. Do you guys like my dress? Yeah. Yes, I got it specially for you.
Jennifer Tracy: Just, as you guys were talking, I was realizing that nick, who was at the front of the... He's probably in here now is my son's babysitter and he's listening to all this. I'm like, well, okay, love you nick. Love you.
Wendy Miller: At least you're not dating him.
Jennifer Tracy: No. [crosstalk 00:34:31], someone said yeah. Remember she likes it over 35, right? I don't know how old nick is. I'm just assuming 37.
Wendy Miller: 36
Jennifer Tracy: You guys are making me blush.
Wendy Miller: I love your Epstein fantasy by the way. I think that's awesome. Every month like different 37 year old guys show up and bang you and leave. Like mine is like every month a 45 year old guy fixes the dishwasher and leaves. I've been married for 30 years. Should change it. That's my sexual fantasy, and maybe kills a spider.
Sabrina Welsz: Oh my God, you guys, I'm going to tell you something really personal, right? I'm married so my kids are gone for a month because they're both in camp. So I'm like, we're... My husband and I are sort of trying out what it's going to be like in three years. We're empty nesters, so we have the whole house to ourselves for a month. So what do we do the first day that we were alone, we cleaned the shit out of the house, but we were so hot and sweaty. So my husband off all his clothes and he's vacuuming naked and I'm telling you that shit was hot.
Sabrina Welsz: That was like the best sex we had in years after that vacuuming. I'm telling you there's this turn on to see your man cleaning and he's naked all the better.
Jennifer Tracy: 100%. For me, the best foreplay is house cleaning and childcare. Can you imagine if they actually knew that they were like trying to show up with flowers and fucking fix the faucet dude, I'll blow you. That easy.
Sabrina Welsz: Fix the faucet, I'll blow you.
Jennifer Tracy: Fix the faucet, I'll blow you. It's that easy. It's true. It's really true. It's very simple. Are there any men in the audience? There's more than a handful.
Sabrina Welsz: I love that.
Jennifer Tracy: All right. Can't see anybody[crosstalk 00:36:33].
Sabrina Welsz: I just want to like it a man more than a handful.
Jennifer Tracy: Oh my God. Okay. I'm still blushing. I don't know why.
Sabrina Welsz: [inaudible 00:36:44] lights up.
Jennifer Tracy: Oh, my lights up. I don't know how long it's been up, but, okay. Thank you. My light. I see my light. Now we've come to the time when I ask the questions, but I'm going to ask an audience member to come up on stage. So is anybody dying to come up on stage with us? Come on. Just come on up here. We can't see you. I can't see anything. We can't pick anyone.
Sabrina Welsz: You are the next contestant.
Jennifer Tracy: I see nothing. You guys look great.
Sabrina Welsz: What a gorgeous audience. Look at them.
Jennifer Tracy: Oh yeah, we got somebody brave. Yes. Okay. Hi, what's your name?
Mindy: Mindy.
Jennifer Tracy: Mindy. Hi. Thanks for coming to the show. Have you listened to the podcast?
Mindy: A little bit. Yeah.
Jennifer Tracy: A little bit. Okay. So have you heard this part where you answer questions?
Mindy: No I haven't heard.
Jennifer Tracy: Okay, good.
Mindy: Oh Shit.
Jennifer Tracy: What do you think about Mindy? Mindy, right? You just said it to me. I can't fucking remember what the hell. Menopause. What do you think about Mindy when you hear the word MILF?
Mindy: Yeah, me. Yeah.
Jennifer Tracy: Okay. What is funny?
Mindy: I'm very tall and I have...
Jennifer Tracy: These are very tall.
Mindy: These are very tall as well. Thank you.
Jennifer Tracy: So are you, what is something you've changed your mind about recently?
Mindy: Something I've changed my mind about recently. Wow. It doesn't have to take your time...
Jennifer Tracy: Take your time.
Mindy: Does it have to be sexual?
Jennifer Tracy: No, it does not. Okay. It can be.
Mindy: I have changed my mind about letting my partner, my husband, get away with saying things without me immediately telling them why that upsets me.
Jennifer Tracy: Can you us an example?
Mindy: I mean, the example, I'm not sure I can give it a specific example, but he will say something and I'll immediately, I will say, "No, no, no, you can't say that. That's not going to work with me anymore." And I'll be fair. I'll say, "You have to say something like this or not at all, but you can't do that." So I want to be helpful. I don't want to just say no.
Jennifer Tracy: Got It. Yeah, that's great. You're evolving.
Mindy: Yeah, I am evolving.
Jennifer Tracy: I love it.
Mindy: I should just keep quiet about it.
Jennifer Tracy: Yeah, I love it. Finding your voice. Yeah. How do you define success?
Mindy: If you go to sleep happy without having worried about anything else, you know you're not thinking about the rest of the day. You're just happy to be in bed and happy gone asleep. Then you're successful.
Jennifer Tracy: Mindy, I love you. Can I give you a hug? I have a little present for you. Just a little present like this one you get to take home. Here go, cum your brains out.
Mindy: What?
Jennifer Tracy: This was donated by the pleasure chest.
Mindy: What is it?
Jennifer Tracy: It's a vibrator.
Mindy: It's a rabbit.
Jennifer Tracy: She knows from here that it's a rabbit to the boxes wrapped.she can tell.
Wendy Miller: It's the 55 J3000 it's got multiple speeds.
Jennifer Tracy: I need one more volunteer. Thank you Mindy. Give it up for Mindy. I need one more volunteer to come up. Yes girl. oh my God. Another tall[inaudible 00:40:14] [Cheerie Farrah 00:40:16]. Everybody give it up for Cheerie. Oh my God, you're so hot.
Cherry Farrah: Hi.
Jennifer Tracy: Hi, gorgeous.
Wendy Miller: Wait, what?
Jennifer Tracy: It's like a goddess factory she just emerged from like, what the heck?
Christina G.: You can't see anything up here.
Sabrina Welsz: You can't see shit.
Jennifer Tracy: Nothing too crazy. No, don't worry. This is just a lightning round of questions. Ocean or desert?
Cherry Farrah: Ocean.
Jennifer Tracy: Favorite junk food?
Cherry Farrah: Popcorn.
Jennifer Tracy: She's an incredible chef. So that's your[inaudible 00:40:51]
Cherry Farrah: My popcorn.
Jennifer Tracy: Your popcorn. Movies or Broadway show?
Cherry Farrah: Movie.
Jennifer Tracy: Daytime sex or nighttime sex?
Cherry Farrah: All of the sex.
Jennifer Tracy: Texting or talking?
Cherry Farrah: Talking.
Jennifer Tracy: Cat person or dog person.
Cherry Farrah: Oh, both.
Jennifer Tracy: Have you ever worn a [unitard 00:41:10]
Cherry Farrah: Wait, describe a unitard.
Jennifer Tracy: Unitard is like neck to ankle.
Cherry Farrah: Like a body suit. I have like a one Z that I camp in that's purple. It's like really warm and it's a no, no I've never worn a unitard.
Jennifer Tracy: Never worn a unitard. Shower or bathtub.
Cherry Farrah: I'm a shower girl.
Jennifer Tracy: Really? I would have tagged you as a bath girl.
Cherry Farrah: You mean like a luxurious clawfoot bath tub. I'll be more about me.
Jennifer Tracy: Yeah.
Cherry Farrah: [inaudible 00:41:42] quick.
Jennifer Tracy: Yeah. Get it done.
Cherry Farrah: Multiple like two showers, three showers a day.
Jennifer Tracy: Yes. Get it clean. Get it...
Cherry Farrah: Yeah.
Jennifer Tracy: Ice Cream or chocolate.
Cherry Farrah: Oh, chocolate.
Jennifer Tracy: On a scale of one to 10 how good are you at ping pong?
Cherry Farrah: I thought you gonna ask me about sex.
Jennifer Tracy: What'd you think I was going to ask? How can I, was it something else?
Cherry Farrah: Ping pong? Fuck [inaudible 00:42:03] one.
Jennifer Tracy: Good. What is your biggest pet peeve?
Cherry Farrah: People don't have integrity.
Jennifer Tracy: Right? You guys feel that. If you could push a button and have perfect skin for the rest of your life, but it would also give you incurable halitosis for the rest of your life, would you push it?
Cherry Farrah: No.
Jennifer Tracy: If you could push a button and it would make everyone in the world 7% happier, 7%. But it would also place a worldwide ban on all hairstyling products. Would you push it?
Cherry Farrah: Everybody in the world would be 7% happier?
Jennifer Tracy: But no hair products.
Cherry Farrah: At all?
Jennifer Tracy: You're looking at my boob.
Cherry Farrah: I was looking at your necklace. Thanks, I always look at your boobs stuff, right? Oh fuck, Jesus. I'm sad to say it, but a hair.
Jennifer Tracy: Would you rather have six fingers on both hands or a belly button that looks like fore skin? Really think about-
Cherry Farrah: Six fingers on both hands.
Jennifer Tracy: Superpower choice and visibility, ability to fly, or super strength?
Cherry Farrah: Fly.
Jennifer Tracy: Where would you fly?
Cherry Farrah: Everywhere.
Jennifer Tracy: Okay. We're almost done. What was the name of your first pet?
Cherry Farrah: Bean.
Jennifer Tracy: What was the name of the street you grew up on?
Cherry Farrah: Desoto road.
Jennifer Tracy: It's a pure porn name. Is Bean Desoto. It's actually really good. Was she a crime scene person or I don't know. What kind of character can we make up for Bean Desoto. She a chef I think.
Cherry Farrah: Oh my God, she is.
Jennifer Tracy: She's a Vegan chef.
Cherry Farrah: She said dirty Vegan chef.
Jennifer Tracy: She's a dirty dirty vegan chef. Cherry Farrah stay right there. Go cum your brains out. I love you. You can sit down and I wanted to have this like Oprah moment that it didn't really work out.
Cherry Farrah: You get a cock[inaudible 00:44:14]
Jennifer Tracy: And you get a vibrator, and you get a vibrator, and you get a vibrator. These are kind of heavy. I don't want to[crosstalk 00:44:27]
Wendy Miller: Are they hurting anyone? I didn't want to get a vibrator on the head.
Jennifer Tracy: Really? Did you get-
Wendy Miller: That's a fun story. If you get like a head injury, how did that happen? Well tonight on KCAL 9, seven people complained that they [crosstalk 00:44:38] paled by cock rings. I want to see, but I know little bullet.
Jennifer Tracy: We should have a little light on.
Wendy Miller: Yeah I want to see.
Jennifer Tracy: Ready. Oh now the lights are on. There you go. Now there was a raffle thing. Nick, did you put this up here? Where's the raffle thing? Oh, there's the... Okay. So those of you that entered the raffle, are there only like three tickets in here.
Wendy Miller: There's five. Great. So everybody wins.
Jennifer Tracy: So everyone that has a raffle ticket, you don't need to read your number. Just drag around. We'll give you your raffle prize at the end. Some of it is donated from [inaudible 00:45:22]-
Wendy Miller: [inaudible 00:45:22] still read the numbers and make people [inaudible 00:45:24].
Jennifer Tracy: Should I? Okay. Two, you have to say Bingo. Two one eight zero zero six .
Audience: Bingo.
Jennifer Tracy: Oh, there's nick, my son's babysitter that I'm not dating. I'm not two one eight zero zero two.
Audience: Bingo. Almost
Jennifer Tracy: Did you just say almost?
Wendy Miller: Yes I did.
Jennifer Tracy: Two one eight zero zero four.They're all going to be in sequential order is my [crosstalk 00:46:04]. Okay that is my Pilates teacher and also one of my best friends, give it up for Daniel Gregory. He is the reason that I'm doing that crazy roller thing that you're seeing me do on Instagram where I'm like sitting on this thing anyway. If you haven't seen it, you'll go look at me doing it. But in these bags as a gift certificate to a free class at Suarez studio called body shape. And it really does lift and firm, as you can see. It really does. No, it's really magical. So definitely come enjoy that.
Christina G.: I go to a studio called body shame. It's slightly different. It's just all mirrors of my mom.
Jennifer Tracy: I love you so much. I love you. Oh my God.
Christina G.: That's a pretty good business model.
Jennifer Tracy: Okay. Two one eight zero zero five.
Christina G.: Almost.
Jennifer Tracy: I think I re-read one of these. Wait, how many are left, Nick?
Nick: One.
Jennifer Tracy: Two one eight zero zero three?
Nick: I got it.
Jennifer Tracy: Oh, you've got it. Two one eight [inaudible 00:47:10] reading them over again. Two one eight zero zero six.
Wendy Miller: Oh you got two.
Jennifer Tracy: That's everybody?
Nick: Yeah.
Jennifer Tracy: Yay. So now I'm going to clean this up for a second and I'm going to ask the audience, would you guys like to see some more pole dancing?
Audience: Yes.
Jennifer Tracy: All right. That is excellent news because I brought some friends.
Jennifer Tracy: Thanks so much for listening guys. I really hope you enjoyed MILF podcast. Live at the Dynasty Typewriter Theater and next week we have the beautiful MJ Grant on the show. I hope you'll tune in. I love you guys so much. Thank you so much for listening.