Anne Stedman: I was the fourth child, and I was nine years later. There was a period of time where I was by myself. My parents would get me a Barbie doll, and they're like, "Go outside and go play." I would become so creative, and I think some of the kids are losing that. They don't know how to be as creative as they could be. Everything's just in their face at all times, so they don't have those moments of being by themselves.
Speaker 2: You're listening to the MILF podcast, this is the show where we talk about motherhood and sexuality with amazing women with fascinating stories to share on the joys of being a milf. Now here's your host, the milfiest MILF I know, Jennifer Tracy.
Jennifer Tracy: Hey guys. Welcome back to the show. This is MILF podcast, the show where we talk about motherhood, entrepreneurship, sexuality, and everything in between. I'm your host, Jennifer Tracy, and I cannot believe this is the end of June. I'm such a broken record, ain't I? I say this at the beginning of every episode, "I can't believe it's whatever date it is." Yeah. We're at the last one in June. Happy summer. It's officially summer. It's beautiful. Hopefully your kids are in sleepaway camp, so you can breathe for a minute.
Jennifer Tracy: Anyway, let's see. A few things. Our show is coming up, our live show, our live event, which is July 24th. You can get tickets for that on the podcast website, milfpodcast.com or you can go to dynastytypewriter.com and buy them there. I strongly suggest getting tickets beforehand. As of right now, we're not sold out, but I just don't want you to miss out if you really do want to go. It's Wednesday, July 24th at 8:00 PM, at the Dynasty Typewriter Theater. It's a lovely theater. There will be valet parking there for you. The concessions. I'm going to be selling some cool swag, and some swag that is just exclusively for the show, but way more exciting than that is that we're going to have two poles, yes, stripper poles, on the stage. Some magic will be happening there, and then I have four panelists coming who are just going to rock your world.
Jennifer Tracy: Come, I hope you can come. The June initiative for giving is familiesbelongtogether.org. You can either donate to them directly, there's a link on my website, or you can write an iTunes review for MILF podcast, and I will donate $25 per review in the month of June. There's that. Today's guest is the beautiful Anne Stedman. She is an actress and a writer and a content creator. I got to go to her house and meet with her. I met her through Allyson Fanger. You remember her? Beautiful Allyson.
Jennifer Tracy: Anne is a Texan girl, and she's been in California for many, many years since she decided she wanted to be an actress, and she's a real powerhouse. It was just so great and she's so fun and warm. Anne's story is so beautiful and incredible and so deep and rich and she's just fascinating, and honestly, I can't wait to see what she does next, because she's got some stuff up her sleeve. This woman is just getting started with the stuff that she's creating. I love that. I think it's inspiring. I think it's really inspiring to people who think, "I have an idea, and I want to do it and..." You can, you actually can. Anyway, without further ado, please enjoy my conversation with Anne Stedman. Hi Anne.
Anne Stedman: Hi.
Jennifer Tracy: I love that you just snorted right before we hit record.
Anne Stedman: I'll do it at some point in this interview-
Jennifer Tracy: I'm a snorter too-
Anne Stedman: It's good times-
Jennifer Tracy: We'll snort together.
Anne Stedman: It's a good release.
Jennifer Tracy: It's so genuine. Thank you so much for being on the show.
Anne Stedman: I'm really excited.
Jennifer Tracy: I'm so thrilled to have you.
Anne Stedman: Thank you.
Jennifer Tracy: I was researching you, because you came to me through Allyson Fanger, who we both love so much-
Anne Stedman: She's good times.
Jennifer Tracy: I was researching you and got to your YouTube channel, and I got to experience so many of your fun videos.
Anne Stedman: Thank you.
Jennifer Tracy: Can you tell me how this was birthed? This Chic Mama?
Anne Stedman: There's just. It's a long journey. But I mean, if you really want to get down to it, you want to start when I was 21?
Jennifer Tracy: Yeah.
Anne Stedman: I-
Jennifer Tracy: Let's hear the whole shebang.
Anne Stedman: Let's do this.
Jennifer Tracy: Let's start from there.
Anne Stedman: Let's go. I was at UT in Austin studying as RTF, a writing major. On a whim, I went on an audition with a girlfriend, and I booked it and I was like, "Oh my God, acting is so fun," right? Then my third audition was with Richard Linklater, and I booked Newton Boys. It was with Matthew McConaughey and Ethan Hawke, and Skeet Ulrich, and, basically Ethan's like, "You should move to LA before this comes out." I was like, "I should. I really should." I was so naive to the competition, which actually worked to my benefit-
Jennifer Tracy: You have to be, yeah.
Anne Stedman: Yeah. Because I didn't know 1,000 girls looked just like me, or maybe even more. I actually had this amazing journey with acting, and then I picked up my husband in a bar. Yes, it does-
Jennifer Tracy: Oh really?
Anne Stedman: It happens. It happens.
Jennifer Tracy: Oh my God. I'm hanging out in all the wrong places.
Anne Stedman: You can go old school-
Jennifer Tracy: Fuck yoga.
Anne Stedman: Yeah, go old school and get a... I picked him up in a bar.
Jennifer Tracy: I love that you say, "Picked him up."
Anne Stedman: I picked him up.
Jennifer Tracy: That's very-
Anne Stedman: That's very Texas.
Jennifer Tracy: Yeah.
Anne Stedman: It's very Texas.
Jennifer Tracy: That's very Texas [inaudible 00:05:27]-
Anne Stedman: It is. Y'all is my favorite word.
Jennifer Tracy: Were you born and raised in Texas?
Anne Stedman: Oh yeah. My Daddy's from Lockhart, Texas.
Jennifer Tracy: Oh. Honey.
Anne Stedman: Yes, girl. But anyways, I was 24, he was 21. We grew up together-
Jennifer Tracy: Babies.
Anne Stedman: We were super babies. Then when I got pregnant, and literally had my baby. My agency, while I was in the hospital was like, "We have an audition for you." I was like, "Are you kidding?"
Jennifer Tracy: I'm busy right now.
Anne Stedman: This is a really funny joke.
Jennifer Tracy: I forgot to book out, but I'm busy right now.
Anne Stedman: I'd been doing it for quite some time that, that was like almost my identity. It was the struggling of being a mom and still holding onto the career that I had known so long.
Jennifer Tracy: Because I know I experienced this too, was there a fear of, "Oh my God, if I don't nurture the acting as well, it'll disappear." Because as we-
Anne Stedman: 110%. Literally five weeks into it they started sending auditions.
Jennifer Tracy: Five weeks after your son is born-
Anne Stedman: Five weeks. It was such a struggle. At that point I had known quite a few people in town, so I would go on these auditions because of fear of losing my craft and be terrible, so awful. Because when Lucas would cry, of course, I would go to him first. I require a lot of preparation when I go into rooms, so they were terrible auditions. I was like, "This really isn't working." My nanny was starting to see all of his first words, and I was like, "This is not..." For me, I wanted to pause. When I paused, I continued commercially because that was easy and fun, but I started this blog just to have some type of creative outlet, Chic Mama LA.
Anne Stedman: It was more of, just because you're a mom, you can still... Don't need to get on the sweatpants and... you could still be cool and chic and be an awesome mom as well. It was kind of tips for everything. Then I kind of narrowed it down to beauty and fashion, and it was really fun, but it kind of had plateaued. It got to a point where I was like, "Okay, this is where it's at." My agent called, and he's like, "Are you ready to go back in?" I was like, I'm going to just put my foot in the water, see how it goes." At this point my youngest was five, and I oldest was nine. I was like, "Okay."
Jennifer Tracy: You'd taken a nice break.
Anne Stedman: I took a long break.
Jennifer Tracy: They're both in elementary school.
Anne Stedman: Yup. I was like, "Okay, I can do this." I did it very, very slowly, and I really then started focusing just on acting, then I missed my blog. I was like-
Jennifer Tracy: Interesting.
Anne Stedman: Yeah, because it was a different type of outlet. When I wasn't booking, I had something that was my own, that I could create and always be passionate.
Jennifer Tracy: You had ownership of that. I mean, as an actor we have so little control over the material we're given, whether we get the part or not, what the audition room is like, if the casting director doesn't like the color shirt we're wearing. All those things and you start to feel, or I started to feel, just like, "Why am I doing this?"
Anne Stedman: I felt crappy about myself if I wasn't booking, so then I had something to always fall back on. Then my auditions became better because I had something that was my own. Then I was like, "Why don't I just start my..." Then I started Chic Mama Carpool, because I was really interested in other amazing moms. I pick up... I have a daddy. There is one Chic Mama Daddy interview as well. But, I started picking up different high profile parents, and interviewed them while we took their kids to school, which I'm still doing. I just did Teddi Mellencamp yesterday, Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, but she's such an amazing girl. But it was really interesting to hear all these different moms and dads stories, in tips because we need that. We need to have other aspects and components that people have to share.
Anne Stedman: Then I was like, "Might as well do what my first original passion was." I created Chic Mama Drama, which is scripted. Now I'm writing, producing, casting, acting and all of it. It's really fun. I get to, kind of, every day, do something that I enjoy.
Jennifer Tracy: That's so great, and it's really funny. We'll have in the show notes, you guys. We'll have a link to her YouTube channel-
Anne Stedman: Thank you-
Jennifer Tracy: ... You can just go straight there. I was watching them again last night, and they're so fun. You also have, on there, some home decorating videos-
Anne Stedman: I do. As you can see. Well you guys can't see, but my house is in shambles right now.
Jennifer Tracy: I don't know if I'd call this shambles-
Anne Stedman: It's my version of shambles-
Jennifer Tracy: One rug is out of place, but I did get to use the newly wallpapered powder room.
Anne Stedman: Thank you-
Jennifer Tracy: Which is beautiful.
Anne Stedman: Thank you so much-
Jennifer Tracy: It was very enjoyable-
Anne Stedman: I appreciate that.
Jennifer Tracy: I enjoyed urinating looking at the beautiful... There it is-
Anne Stedman: [crosstalk 00:11:04]-
Jennifer Tracy: There it is.
Anne Stedman: That makes me so happy. That's really funny. We have a new video coming out. Villa Lagoon gave us the most amazing tile and Adam is putting it together, and that's maybe going to be another video.
Jennifer Tracy: Yes. It's gorgeous. I'm looking at it right now. It's really stunning. It's like a starburst.
Anne Stedman: It's good times.
Jennifer Tracy: Yeah, it's awesome.
Anne Stedman: Basically, I do videos of anything that makes me happy, and hopefully other people... What's fun is, some people really gravitate towards the videos of the tile while others are... I try to kind of expand it out so everybody is interested in something.
Jennifer Tracy: Okay. You've done all this, and your kids are now?
Anne Stedman: I have a 13 year old.
Jennifer Tracy: Oh my gosh.
Anne Stedman: That's a 'whoa' age. It totally changes.
Jennifer Tracy: I'm sure. Mine is almost 10, and I'm starting to get the little bit of sass.
Anne Stedman: But it's even just, he's grown four inches and 20 pounds in like eight months, "He's a little man now." Then, of course, I have Bash my sweet little nine year old.
Jennifer Tracy: Oh yeah. We have sons the same age. Is Bash in fourth grade?
Anne Stedman: He's in third.
Jennifer Tracy: Okay, right.
Anne Stedman: It's good times.
Jennifer Tracy: Yeah.
Anne Stedman: So cute.
Jennifer Tracy: They're so cuddly.
Anne Stedman: They are. Oh, he cuddles every morning. Jumps in bed, and he's my morning cuddles. It's so sweet-
Jennifer Tracy: I know. I love having a boy. I mean, I didn't experience having a girl.
Anne Stedman: Me either girl.
Jennifer Tracy: But I'm okay with it.
Anne Stedman: I am too-
Jennifer Tracy: I love my boy.
Anne Stedman: I feel like you get what you're supposed to have in your journey-
Jennifer Tracy: Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. Absolutely. You're doing all this amazing creative stuff, and it sounds like you have a very supportive partner also. Your husband.
Anne Stedman: Michael is incredible. He helps me produce a lot of my stuff as well. I either work with my husband or my brother Jim. Jim helps me with the scripted.
Jennifer Tracy: They're all... I mean, obviously your husband-
Anne Stedman: No, he'll fly in from... Jim will fly in from Austin. It's the cutest thing-
Jennifer Tracy: That's so sweet.
Anne Stedman: It really is.
Jennifer Tracy: Is he an artist as well? Is he-
Anne Stedman: Yes. He's an incredible director and editor.
Jennifer Tracy: Oh my God. How great to have that in your back pocket-
Anne Stedman: I've got two awesome dudes.
Jennifer Tracy: That's amazing.
Anne Stedman: I know.
Jennifer Tracy: You have [crosstalk 00:13:25]-
Anne Stedman: Then Matt, my other brother, he's incredible too.
Jennifer Tracy: Really?
Anne Stedman: Just had to throw that out there.
Jennifer Tracy: Okay. You didn't want him to feel left out.
Anne Stedman: No. We love you so much, Matt.
Jennifer Tracy: Even though you're not doing anything for Chic Mama production.
Anne Stedman: He-
Jennifer Tracy: That's okay. That's okay. We'll forgive him-
Anne Stedman: He mentally helps me.
Jennifer Tracy: Okay, got it. Got it. Moral support.
Anne Stedman: Moral support-
Jennifer Tracy: Moral support is very important.
Anne Stedman: It is.
Jennifer Tracy: You're doing all this amazing stuff. You're creating this, basically your own network. It sounds like we're working our way there.
Anne Stedman: I'm trying.
Jennifer Tracy: Yeah. You recently wrote a script. I saw.
Anne Stedman: I did. [crosstalk 00:13:56]-
Jennifer Tracy: Congratulations.
Anne Stedman: Thank you. We are doing rewrites right now on it, but literally, it's full blown, because before I decided I was going to be a writing major, I actually thought I was going to be in journalism. My Chic Mama Carpool, it's really full circle. I literally was like, "What are all my wishes and dreams? I'm just going to do them. Why not?" Because I'm, I mean, I'm 43-
Jennifer Tracy: Yes, me too.
Anne Stedman: Oh, that's so awesome-
Jennifer Tracy: I'm going to be 44 in June.
Anne Stedman: You look good girl.
Jennifer Tracy: You do too girl.
Anne Stedman: Yes.
Jennifer Tracy: Get it.
Anne Stedman: But I was like, "What's stopping me?" I don't want to look back and say, I didn't at least try.
Jennifer Tracy: Yes. I want to hear what your script is about in a minute, but when you have that pull of that story or whatever it is, or the Chic Mama Carpool, and the Chic Mama Drama, there's this pull inside of you that's like, "I need to birth this thing," and you just went out and did it. I think that is such a wonderful, beautiful example for so many of us who might be sitting at home and like, "Oh, but I can't. I don't have this-"
Anne Stedman: You can.
Jennifer Tracy: You totally can.
Anne Stedman: You can, and you can start-
Jennifer Tracy: You totally can.
Anne Stedman: My first carpool was with the amazing Marla Sokoloff. Her daughter may be my goddaughter. I was like, "Girl, get in the car." But it's like we did it for literally nothing. If there's a will, there's a way. You know you can do it.
Jennifer Tracy: Yeah. It's just about-
Anne Stedman: Then you can start small.
Jennifer Tracy: Exactly. It's just about doing it and committing to doing it.
Anne Stedman: Exactly.
Jennifer Tracy: I think that's so great. Can you tell me about your script? Is it under wraps?
Anne Stedman: I feel like I want to keep it a little under wraps-
Jennifer Tracy: Okay, can you tell me the genre?
Anne Stedman: It's a comedy.
Jennifer Tracy: It's a comedy. I mean obvious-
Anne Stedman: Well duh.
Jennifer Tracy: Obviously. Yeah.
Anne Stedman: Duh. I gravitate toward comedy. But there are some serious moments within it. I can say that.
Jennifer Tracy: Oh my God. Awesome.
Anne Stedman: I'm working with my brother.
Jennifer Tracy: So great.
Anne Stedman: Yeah. We're writing [crosstalk 00:15:58]-
Jennifer Tracy: It helps to have a partner.
Anne Stedman: It totally does-
Jennifer Tracy: It's really hard to write in a vacuum with no... When you're not accountable to another human, and also you're just alone in your head, that can be really hard too.
Anne Stedman: We give each other deadlines.
Jennifer Tracy: Oh, that's so smart.
Anne Stedman: We're very good at that-
Jennifer Tracy: That's great. That's so great.
Anne Stedman: I'm like, "Okay, by Tuesday I will have this to you. I promise." Because I also have so many moving parts, and I'm wearing a lot of different hats that, if I don't give myself a deadline of some sort, even within myself. Because half the time I'm sitting at my computer at my home, that's my office. If I don't set myself up for that, it could lead to failure, so I give myself little deadlines.
Jennifer Tracy: How do you... I had a question, and it went right out of my head the moment that I opened my mouth. Oh, no. I know what it was.
Anne Stedman: There it is. Got it. Got it.
Jennifer Tracy: All right.
Anne Stedman: Sorry.
Jennifer Tracy: No. Don't ever apologize. It's the most perfect, pure, loving, beautiful thing. How are you balancing having... You have a 13-year old and a-
Anne Stedman: Nine-
Jennifer Tracy: ... nine year old and a husband. You got to remember him sometimes.
Anne Stedman: Of course.
Jennifer Tracy: Having this, basically, your own production company and Lockhart Productions. That's right-
Anne Stedman: It's my dad's, where he was born.
Jennifer Tracy: Oh. That's so-
Anne Stedman: Ain't it cute-
Jennifer Tracy: ... sweet. I love it.
Anne Stedman: Lockhart sounds cool.
Jennifer Tracy: It sounds awesome. It's badass.
Anne Stedman: But wait. I just interrupted you.
Jennifer Tracy: No, no, it's okay. I love it-
Anne Stedman: Go with that question-
Jennifer Tracy: I'm very tangential and we have asides. I was joking with my guest, Wendy Miller. "I should just have a show of asides."
Anne Stedman: I like this.
Jennifer Tracy: Another aside, because I constantly am going from topic to topic. I can barely keep up with myself, which is why I forgot the question when I was about to ask it. How are you balancing all of this with your own self care? I'm looking at you and you're beautiful-
Anne Stedman: Oh, you're sweet-
Jennifer Tracy: ... and you're put together, and you're wearing-
Anne Stedman: So are you lady-
Jennifer Tracy: ... a dry cleaned shirt, and your nails are done, and you have sort of-
Anne Stedman: From afar, they're a little chipped.
Jennifer Tracy: I mean, how do you balance and have time for yourself and have time to...
Anne Stedman: Each week is a different type of balance. Is basically like one week if I'm super, super busy I let my boys know. They're at a age where they also tell me that they're proud of me, which is so sweet. I think they're at a age now that they can watch me, and they're like, "Good for you mommy." I was up for a movie, and I still, and I may have to leave. They're like, "No, we want you to take it, because we know how much it means to you." But back to the question. Certain weeks I just let them know that it's going to be a busy, busy week, and then I carve out, when they get home from school, as much time as possible. For us it's sports. I am pretty much at every sporting event that they do, and that means a lot to all of us. They know the drill.
Anne Stedman: Then there's weeks where... For spring break, I took the whole time off, and it was just us as a family. It's a juggling act, and it's never equally balanced to be honest.
Jennifer Tracy: It's always changing, right?
Anne Stedman: On a daily basis.
Jennifer Tracy: One day is never the same. I remember I was out with a girlfriend who is single. We were having dinner a couple months ago. She said, "Well, when are you free? What's your free time?" I was like, "It changes every single day." I wouldn't even ever call it free time anymore. It's not free time. It's like everything is scheduled.
Anne Stedman: Everything down to the minute.
Jennifer Tracy: I mean, literally, my ex husband, it's so funny, he's from Louisiana, so he has all these funny southern sayings. He would... I don't know if this is a southern saying, this is probably just a Bloomsism. His name is Blooms. But he would say, "You couldn't fit a fart into that schedule."
Anne Stedman: Wow. That's a new one. Using it on my boys today.
Jennifer Tracy: It's so good right? Because it's so... It's true. It's like, "Wow, I'm really scheduled out." But within that, I try to kind of maintain, not over-scheduling myself or my kid.
Anne Stedman: Yeah. That's very important. I think a lot of kids are over-scheduled, or they have their iPads and video games in front of them, and they don't know how to be bored, and it's becoming a thing-
Jennifer Tracy: Oh my gosh, totally.
Anne Stedman: ... within... If they don't have something, some kind of gadget or some kind of play date, they're like, "Well, what do I do with myself?" I was the fourth child, and I was nine years later, so there was a period of time where I was by myself. My parents would give me a Barbie doll, and they're like, "Go outside and go play." I would become so creative, and I think some of the kids are losing that. They don't know how to be as creative as they could be because they are so... Everything's just in their face at all times. They don't have those moments of being by themselves.
Jennifer Tracy: I know. It is scary. I mean, my one saving grace right now, I mean, my son is completely addicted to television and video games and iPad. He's nine-
Anne Stedman: Most boys are.
Jennifer Tracy: ... Oh my God, and he's begging me for a phone.
Anne Stedman: Oh. That's a hard one.
Jennifer Tracy: Oh it's so hard. I'm like, "Well you already have an iPad." He's like, "Well, I need cell service for the bus," because he takes the bus to school. "I need cell service for the bus so that I can watch cartoons on YouTube for the bus ride." I'm, "Dude," and this is where I feel old. It's like that cliche, when I was your age-
Anne Stedman: I'm still that girl.
Jennifer Tracy: "When I was your age, I took the bus to camp, and we talked."
Anne Stedman: Yeah, that's shocking. It's so riveting. There's a thing called talking, Looking out the window-
Jennifer Tracy: Also looking out the window.
Anne Stedman: It's crazy.
Jennifer Tracy: It's so funny. He's like-
Anne Stedman: You're like, "What-"
Jennifer Tracy: Oh, that's boring. I know.
Anne Stedman: There's been times where one of my son's friends was here, and they were texting each other within the room. I thought this is not allowed-
Jennifer Tracy: This is not okay.
Anne Stedman: This is really disturbing. We were sort of late to the game to give Lucas a phone and Bash does not have one.
Jennifer Tracy: Wait, what does that mean? Because he's 13-
Anne Stedman: He got it-
Jennifer Tracy: What's the standard now?
Anne Stedman: Well, we were basically like, "You should get it your-"
Jennifer Tracy: Middle school.
Anne Stedman: Sixth grade graduation. A lot of kids got it much earlier, and he then wanted Instagram, which is very scary to me. There are some pluses and then there are some definite minuses for social media, especially when you're at a young age and things can affect you easily because you don't understand. He wrote 100 reasons why he should have an Instagram.
Jennifer Tracy: Wow. I'm impressed.
Anne Stedman: Well, he's good like that, but, some of the things that he put down was that we could help manage it with him. That made me feel safe. He's probably like, "Dude, mom, why are you saying this on [inaudible 00:23:27]?"
Jennifer Tracy: No. Right? Oh, please. I mean, my poor son, someday he'll listen to these, and he'll be like, "Why were you talking about my naked body, or whatever it was, like changing my diaper. He'll be mortified, but it's like-
Anne Stedman: It's good times-
Jennifer Tracy: "Sorry dude."
Anne Stedman: But I feel like he's at a age where it does help to help him understand everything, because he may think a video is really funny, but it is out there forever. Even in an Insta story, someone can copy it. Of course internships, and later down the road, colleges, are going to be looking at this. I mean, before Michael and I hire, I'll be honest, I'll go to the person's Instagram account and check out their personality. That has made or break people before. I just think it's really important for kids to know what they're putting out there, because it's never gone.
Jennifer Tracy: It's never gone. I know. We didn't have that growing up.
Anne Stedman: No.
Jennifer Tracy: How long has he had the Instagram?
Anne Stedman: He's had it for a little over a year now.
Jennifer Tracy: Okay. You've been in it for a while.
Anne Stedman: Oh, we've been in it-
Jennifer Tracy: How's it going-
Anne Stedman: We have discussions. I mean, if he-
Jennifer Tracy: It's a constant flow of... not a constant, but, I mean-
Anne Stedman: Not constant, because he-
Jennifer Tracy: ... it's fluid-
Anne Stedman: ... now knows, but in the beginning I was like, "No, you are not posting that." Then, I mean, if we want to get real, real, I mean, say they hashtag White House. What if there is a strip club called White House as well, and then they're seeing photos that are completely inappropriate. You have to be very careful, or down to somebody is invited to a party, and they see that they're not invited. There are so many elements of it that you have to just be really careful and be very open with your kids and talk to them about it, so you can help guide them. It's a lot.
Jennifer Tracy: I mean that just adds another layer of another thing you have to navigate-
Anne Stedman: It's crazy-
Jennifer Tracy: ... with your child.
Anne Stedman: The social media is kind of crazy.
Jennifer Tracy: But I love that you're just taking it on, head on. I couldn't think of the phrase I wanted. I have such a mom brain. This is genuine, I'm not making a joke. I sometimes genuinely worry that I'm having the early, early, early, early, early [inaudible 00:25:47], because my brain, I'm just like-
Anne Stedman: I'm right there with you.
Jennifer Tracy: I just [crosstalk 00:25:53] it's a mom brain, I guess. I don't know, but-
Anne Stedman: Maybe another cup of coffee.
Jennifer Tracy: Oh my God, girl. I love that... I can't think of the phrase I want, but you're really going at it.
Anne Stedman: I try to keep open communication in hopes that he does it too.
Jennifer Tracy: Yes. Also, as it comes up, you're going to talk to him about these things that are real.
Anne Stedman: With some of the questions you're... inside internally, but then you try to play it cool. You're like, "No, I... Yeah, of course. Of course, I know about this. I can't dive in too deep because he'll be mortified.
Jennifer Tracy: Of course, of course. I get it.
Anne Stedman: But you just try to keep everything as open as possible, so they do come to you on things that are very important to them.
Jennifer Tracy: Yeah, absolutely. It's so good for him to feel like he can be independent and that he can be trusted. That's such an important piece of growing up. I'm just looking in your kitchen you have all these, are those silhouettes from the children from Disneyland?
Anne Stedman: No, it was at a party.
Jennifer Tracy: At a party.
Anne Stedman: But yeah, that was us, I want to say like four or five years ago.
Jennifer Tracy: Oh my God. It's so sweet. It's those little silhouettes. I remember getting one of me done. It's just the... that's what it's called, right?
Anne Stedman: Yeah.
Jennifer Tracy: Just a silhouette?
Anne Stedman: Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Jennifer Tracy: ... in Disneyland when I was little. I don't know where it is, but I remember thinking that was just the neatest thing.
Anne Stedman: It's pretty cool, and then you have it for a lifetime.
Jennifer Tracy: Yeah. It's really neat.
Anne Stedman: So cute.
Jennifer Tracy: That's really cool. Okay, let me check the time. Okay. We're cruising along.
Anne Stedman: I love this.
Jennifer Tracy: I love it too. It's so fun. It's so fun. You're still acting?
Anne Stedman: Yeah. Yeah. I am going out there and getting it.
Jennifer Tracy: Yeah. Yes you are.
Anne Stedman: As much as I can. I will say the roles are totally different.
Jennifer Tracy: I know, right? Once you hit... Well, when I hit 35, there was a couple of years that I was still going out for the same stuff, but everything shifted. Then, yeah-
Anne Stedman: Soon as I had a kid, I went from being on a show, and I was 28 playing 22 and then that following pilot season, they had me going out as a mom of a five-year old-
Jennifer Tracy: [crosstalk 00:28:00]-
Anne Stedman: I was like... Which I didn't mind, but I didn't book, because my face didn't match where I was going.
Jennifer Tracy: Sure, sure.
Anne Stedman: But now that I have a little wrinkle here and there, it's actually amazing because I've played characters roles. I was always the love interest or the girl next door and now I was a drunken principal. Then I played a villain in a kids movie. I've actually played meaty roles, and it's been way more fun.
Jennifer Tracy: Oh, that's awesome-
Anne Stedman: [crosstalk 00:28:34]. Yeah, it's good times-
Jennifer Tracy: That's awesome. It feels freeing to not have to be attached to that kind of ingenue look.
Anne Stedman: Yeah.
Jennifer Tracy: I mean-
Anne Stedman: Well, literally I was playing the same character every time, which I loved, but it's now nice that I have a little more of a challenge.
Jennifer Tracy: Yes, and you have ownership of your own stuff that you're creating.
Anne Stedman: Yes.
Jennifer Tracy: Now, ultimately the script that you're developing is it for you to be-
Anne Stedman: One role might be for me [crosstalk 00:29:05]-
Jennifer Tracy: That's awesome.
Anne Stedman: [crosstalk 00:29:05]. Then with Chic Mama Drama... Basically, let me go back and explain. We wanted to do this kind of fun. Chic Mama Drama is what happens before I pick up the actual guests. It's a scripted... It's almost like a mockumentary of what happens. We make up a fake scenario of what happens before, that's really humorous and funny, and then afterwards when you watch that, you can click on to the real interview. It almost blurs the lines of what's real and what's not. There was a Larry Sanders Show. Do you remember that?
Jennifer Tracy: Of course.
Anne Stedman: His actual interviews were fake. Mine is the real interviews, but with fake circumstances that are really funny.
Jennifer Tracy: Yeah. Really funny.
Anne Stedman: Thank you.
Jennifer Tracy: I was watching the one last night where you went, I don't want to give it away for the those that... You went to a house thinking that you were meeting Laura-
Anne Stedman: Yeah. Laura Wasser.
Jennifer Tracy: ... and someone answered the door and there was this massive confusion about what was going on. It was really funny-
Anne Stedman: Just a little confusion.
Jennifer Tracy: "Do you have any skin allergies?" "Why are you asking me that?" "What's happening? No." It was-
Anne Stedman: Tony Robinette is the actor and he-
Jennifer Tracy: Oh he was fantastic.
Anne Stedman: Aint he really good?
Jennifer Tracy: He's so funny-
Anne Stedman: He's good times. We got to... I think, 700 people auditioned for that role. and we narrowed it down to him. That process was really fun too. I had never done that before.
Jennifer Tracy: How do you audition people? Do they send in tape?
Anne Stedman: Yup.
Jennifer Tracy: [crosstalk 00:30:40] great-
Anne Stedman: They send in... Yeah. We put out-
Jennifer Tracy: [crosstalk 00:30:43] easier or are not easy for you because you still have to watch all the tapes, but...
Anne Stedman: There was so many learning lessons of what to do and what not to do. That was really interesting as well as an actor-
Jennifer Tracy: As far as casting?
Anne Stedman: Uh-huh (affirmative)-
Jennifer Tracy: Oh-
Anne Stedman: As an actor.
Jennifer Tracy: Say more.
Anne Stedman: You just see what you... Some people will throw in some jokes, and you're like, "Oh, that's actually really not that-"
Jennifer Tracy: Yes. Helpful.
Anne Stedman: Helpful. Yeah. It was really an interesting process.
Jennifer Tracy: Wow. I bet.
Anne Stedman: Yeah, it was really cool.
Jennifer Tracy: Yeah. What's next for you and Chic Mama. You're just going to keep... Do you have more lined up-
Anne Stedman: I have two more Chic Mama Carpools, and we're actually trying... we're actually going to start pitching the Chic Mama Drama with the Chic Mama Carpool as a unit that's together. That's what we're doing next.
Jennifer Tracy: Great. Awesome. How many of these do you shoot a month?
Anne Stedman: It totally varies depending... I go off brands. When I get a brand opportunity, that's when we shoot, because I got to figure out how to get it paid for.
Jennifer Tracy: Right, exactly. Yeah. You can't fund the whole thing-
Anne Stedman: Production isn't free.
Jennifer Tracy: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Anne Stedman: It's basically, what we've been doing lately is like a brand off. We'll do one brand per episode. We're just trying to see if that's how we're going to continue to go, or if we're going to take a different avenue-
Jennifer Tracy: How did you establish those relationships with the brands? Starting from the first one, how did that come about?
Anne Stedman: Brands would come to me through my Chic Mama LA blog.
Jennifer Tracy: That's amazing.
Anne Stedman: Then I also have an agent that helps. My branding agent will help me get brands to come in as well. I mean, we did one with a makeup line, and I got a celebrity makeup artist, Monika Blunder who's insanely talented. She did a tutorial in the car, which was incredible. We kind of pair different people with brands. That makes sense.
Jennifer Tracy: That's so great.
Anne Stedman: Yeah, it's really fun.
Jennifer Tracy: That's so great. I love it. That's so smart, and also, I think, just good for people to hear out there [crosstalk 00:32:54]-
Anne Stedman: How you can get it done.
Jennifer Tracy: Yeah. How you can get it done, because there is... There are companies that need advertising, and when you provide good content and good script... You can provide that for them, and they can exchange it for production.
Anne Stedman: It goes back to, if you really want it, there's always a way of figuring it out.
Jennifer Tracy: Yeah. I wanted to ask you about, so, after you gave birth, did you experience any postpartum?
Anne Stedman: Not with Lucas, but with Bash.
Jennifer Tracy: Interesting.
Anne Stedman: Yeah. Lucas was... Maybe I was, but I was just so busy.
Jennifer Tracy: Right, because while you were in the delivery room [crosstalk 00:33:29]-
Anne Stedman: I went right back into work. Yeah, I literally went... I might have had it, but I definitely felt it when Sebastian was born, for a couple of months. I knew what it was, so I was able to kind of tackle it on my own, but yeah, I mean, that's definitely a real thing that's out there. Kudos to all moms who are... Push through it and come out on the other side. I mean, just think of what our bodies are going through.
Jennifer Tracy: It's so massive.
Anne Stedman: It's crazy if you think about it.
Jennifer Tracy: It's so massive.
Anne Stedman: Kind of, it makes sense that your body's just getting back to what it was before. It's kind of a hard struggle sometimes.
Jennifer Tracy: Did you have support around that when you-
Anne Stedman: Yes. Yeah.
Jennifer Tracy: Your husband...
Anne Stedman: My husband's amazing. My dad's a child therapists, that kind of helps too.
Jennifer Tracy: Oh really.
Anne Stedman: Yes.
Jennifer Tracy: Okay, well, Let's go there. You grew up in a household with four children, you're the youngest by nine years below the second, youngest-
Anne Stedman: Then it's 13 to nine years age gap.
Jennifer Tracy: Wow. Your dad was a child therapist, what did your mom do?
Anne Stedman: She was an awesome mom. With four kids she was like, I'm just-
Jennifer Tracy: I'm full-
Anne Stedman: ... locking this down.
Jennifer Tracy: Yeah no kidding. Good.
Anne Stedman: Yeah. Because she always did her own things. She was so cool.
Jennifer Tracy: That's where you got that modeling from of like, "I'm going to do my own thing [crosstalk 00:34:59]."
Anne Stedman: Okay, let's talk about that. When I went off to college, my mom would go to the craziest places. She for a month would go dig up artifacts in London. She went and studied in Paris and she lived with monks. She did a bucket list-
Jennifer Tracy: That's amazing-
Anne Stedman: Isn't that amazing? Then after that month of her doing what she wanted to, my dad would meet her up and then they would travel together. It was so incredible.
Jennifer Tracy: That's how you stay married people.
Anne Stedman: It really is.
Jennifer Tracy: That is really awesome.
Anne Stedman: That and every Saturday they had a ongoing date whether they wanted to go or not, and that's what they're still married. They're still kicking it-
Jennifer Tracy: That's so sweet.
Anne Stedman: I know. But back to my dad. Yeah, it was incredible to have him as a child therapist because he never brought it home. You didn't feel like he was analyzing you, but if you needed help, he was incredible at it. To this day I still am like, ""Oh my God," with my boys. It's so great that I get to call him and he has such valid, awesome advice.
Jennifer Tracy: Well, and he probably didn't damage you as much as the average person because he's like, "Whoa, that's [crosstalk 00:36:14]-"
Anne Stedman: "Hold on there."
Jennifer Tracy: I know if I say that, if I do this, I'm going to have another one. That's, but, I mean, all jokes aside, how wonderful, and that you are obviously so close with your whole family.
Anne Stedman: Yes, I am. I feel very lucky.
Jennifer Tracy: That's so great. You have two brothers and a sister?
Anne Stedman: My sister passed of cancer.
Jennifer Tracy: Oh, I'm so sorry.
Anne Stedman: No, no, no, no. She was 24, and it was two weeks after her 24th birthday and I was 12. In a weird way it was such a positive thing. She decided she was not going to have her last surgery, and she had her bucket list. She went and did her thing and probably lived a more fulfilled life than some do in that short amount of time. It really pulled our family in tighter, because it either does one or the other. Fortunately, we had the support of our parents who were so incredible with it. I mean, I can't even imagine what they went through, now having my own children. What that must felt like. It was a very wild ride, but, we think of Mary. Her birthday was a week ago, and I still think of her [inaudible 00:37:35]. She's always there with me, just in a different way. Yeah.
Jennifer Tracy: What kind of cancer was it?
Anne Stedman: Well, we thought it was hematoma from a skiing accident. It was like a bruise on her thigh. It ended up being sarcoma, which is very aggressive, and it traveled into her lungs. At that point there's kind of no stopping it. She chose to go the positive route, and she's just like, "I'm going to live each day the way I want to while I'm still here." Which, yeah.
Jennifer Tracy: What an inspiration.
Anne Stedman: There's actually a book. My mom's journal with my sister's journal combined.
Jennifer Tracy: Wow. What's the name of the book?
Anne Stedman: Well, they... It was The Journey of Mary Stedman, but I don't know... They've changed the title of it.
Jennifer Tracy: Okay. It hasn't been out. It's not out yet?
Anne Stedman: It's out, but they changed the title, and I felt terrible that I [crosstalk 00:38:37]-
Jennifer Tracy: Oh my God. No, no, no-
Anne Stedman: ... title.
Jennifer Tracy: We'll research it. We'll put it in the show notes.
Anne Stedman: That's nice.
Jennifer Tracy: That's so beautiful.
Anne Stedman: When I read it, since I was 12, I didn't remember half of the stuff that actually really happened. I think I kind of blocked some of it out, because it was almost too much. I was starting to go through puberty myself. When she passed, I was in middle school and the principal told everyone. I had the weirdest responses. It was, "Because they hadn't dealt with death before." Either people were overly supportive or almost kind of thought of me as a weirdo. They didn't know how to handle it. I was literally given one week where I was able to cry, and then everyone's like, "Well, why are you so sad still?" It was a really hard struggle balancing it, and I think I kind of wasn't fully healed. It took me quite some time to register that I wasn't, and my parents, they were grieving themselves. I think I was like, "I'm fine, I'm totally fine," because I didn't want to give them more pain. It was definitely an interesting process when I look 20 years back, and I was like, "Oh wait, I still have this with me. Not me"
Jennifer Tracy: Yeah, of course. Well. Now your son is the age you were, yo were just a year older when you had that experience-
Anne Stedman: I think of that often-
Jennifer Tracy: ... I'm sure. I'm sure.
Anne Stedman: Because back then there wasn't cell phones, so doctors would call our house and I would have to find my parents and call them to tell them the news. I also kind of lost some of my innocence in the sense that I had to become adult for my sister and my parents. It was definitely a weird but beautiful journey.
Jennifer Tracy: Wow. What an indelible mark she's left on you and your family as artists, as family members.
Anne Stedman: Yes, definitely.
Jennifer Tracy: To inspire you. I would assume that, that's probably imbued not only, by how badass your mom is that she goes and studies with monks and goes to Paris and... That's incredible. But that, Mary, she's-
Anne Stedman: Forever in us.
Jennifer Tracy: [crosstalk 00:41:01]-
Anne Stedman: Yeah. She was an incredible example of how to live life.
Jennifer Tracy: That's so beautiful. Thanks Mary.
Anne Stedman: Thank you Mary.
Jennifer Tracy: Wow. You're amazing, and I could talk to you for so much longer. I don't know. We might have to do more of this.
Anne Stedman: Done.
Jennifer Tracy: Let's see. I'm trying to think if there's any other questions I had for you. Do you have any questions for me? I don't usually ask that, but [crosstalk 00:41:27]-
Anne Stedman: How did you start this.
Jennifer Tracy: How did I start this? I mean, similar, similar, similar. I thought I was going to be in journalism, and then I worked for a TV station in college, and I said, "Fuck this, this is horrible." Then I majored in film, screenwriting-
Anne Stedman: Oh, we so are similar-
Jennifer Tracy: ... I came out here too be an actress. Same thing. I didn't do a lot of theatrical auditions or bookings, that just never kind of came to me, but I did a lot of commercials. Then I had my son, and then it was just like, "I need more. I need..." Well, at first I had a horrible postpartum for three years.
Anne Stedman: Oh Wow. Three years?
Jennifer Tracy: Yeah. I didn't know what it was, and so I didn't get outside help, and then finally I did. I got medication and therapy and it helped amazingly, like within six weeks I felt so much better. Then I started writing, and I was just like, "I need to..." Kind of like how you were saying the blog was just so... it felt so good and so therapeutic and just... Then you start getting the feedback of, "Oh, this is helping people. It's amazing.
Anne Stedman: Exactly.
Jennifer Tracy: Yeah. One thing led to another, and then I wrote my first novel, and then I just had this hole to do a podcast with other moms.
Anne Stedman: Yes, girl.
Jennifer Tracy: Yeah.
Anne Stedman: Well, it's so funny being interviewed because I'm usually on the other side.
Jennifer Tracy: Yes. Totally, totally. It's fun though, right?
Anne Stedman: It is fun. It's super fun, and you never know where it's going to go.
Jennifer Tracy: You never know where it's going. That's the exciting part.
Anne Stedman: It's so exciting because I'll have-
Jennifer Tracy: It's like improv-
Anne Stedman: I'll have questions in my head of what I'm going to ask, and then sometimes we don't even go there.
Jennifer Tracy: Yeah. I don't even plan it. I mean, I research the person a little bit if I don't know them already, just so that I'm not like, "Oh." But, most of it is just us sitting down, getting to know each other a little bit.
Anne Stedman: Exactly. Like a little fly on the wall.
Jennifer Tracy: Yeah. It's really fun.
Anne Stedman: It is fun.
Jennifer Tracy: It's really fun. Ann, I'm going to ask you three questions that I ask every guest.
Anne Stedman: Oh. Okay. Bring them.
Jennifer Tracy: Then we're going to go into a lightning round of fun questions.
Anne Stedman: Okay.
Jennifer Tracy: What do you think about, Ann, when you hear the word MILF?
Anne Stedman: I blush. Honestly as we get older too. I'm going more inside than... I'm more attracted to people their their minds than their looks, these days. It used to be a lot different in my 20s how I felt.
Jennifer Tracy: Me too, me too. Absolutely. What's something you've changed your mind about recently?
Anne Stedman: I think I've changed my mind on trying to... my parenting skills of letting go a little more, because I'm very into almost controlling how things are operated. I'm like, especially with my son Sebastian, with his type of personality. It's better to just kind of let go a little bit of the control.
Jennifer Tracy: Yeah. It's so hard to do.
Anne Stedman: So hard to do.
Jennifer Tracy: Oh my God. It's so hard. Yeah. My son, he wears a uniform to school and today I gave him a button down shirt. Usually he wears these polo shirts that are neat cotton, pull over your head. But this is a button down. It's ironed and dry cleaned. I said do you want to try this one? He put on, he goes, "This is scratchy." I said, "Oh, do you need help unbuttoning it?" "No." We were running out of time and... Because, LA is a terrific. He were talking before we hit record, about how you have to leave the house at a certain time to get to school on time, because LA traffic is a nightmare.
Anne Stedman: Nightmare.
Jennifer Tracy: He's unbuttoning it, he's struggling. I'm like, "Do you need help?" I reach over, and he just thwarts my hand away-
Anne Stedman: That's what I'm talking about.
Jennifer Tracy: Just he's so like, "I got it." "I'm like, "Okay, got it." He's been like that since he was born. Not swatting my hand away, but just... He wants to feel that independence, and I try to nurture it, but I also wanted him to know that I'm there for him, also then I'm like, "We've got to go."
Anne Stedman: I'm right there with you.
Jennifer Tracy: Oh my God. So [crosstalk 00:45:17]-
Anne Stedman: That's what I exactly mean. I'm like, "Okay, he needs to be able to..." because he's also at that age. Then I got my 13-year old there, it's like, "Oh mom."
Jennifer Tracy: Mom. [inaudible 00:45:27]. Mom.
Anne Stedman: I know.
Jennifer Tracy: My nine year old at the same time, my nine year old, I only have one. I don't know why I'm mirroring. I'm like, "My nine year old." Wait, I only have one [inaudible 00:45:38]. Anyway, he will do that kind of stuff, but then he'll be like, "Mom, can you get me a lemonade with crushed ice? Can you slice a pineapple for me?"
Anne Stedman: You don't know which direction to go? You're like, "Wait, what? Huh?"
Jennifer Tracy: Oh God. It's a hard balance. It's a dance-
Anne Stedman: It's indeed a juggle.
Jennifer Tracy: How do you define success?
Anne Stedman: Waking up and being very happy. Just being so content and excited for the day.
Jennifer Tracy: You seem like you're like that most of the time.
Anne Stedman: Most of the time.
Jennifer Tracy: Yeah.
Anne Stedman: Yeah. But there's moments, and it's totally normal [crosstalk 00:46:09]-
Jennifer Tracy: Of course, absolutely. Yeah. There'd be worry if there weren't.
Anne Stedman: Exactly.
Jennifer Tracy: That would be a whole other thing. I was thinking of Annette Bening in American beauty.
Anne Stedman: Exactly. Everything's fine.
Jennifer Tracy: I will sell this house today. I will sell this house today. She was brilliant in that.
Anne Stedman: So good.
Jennifer Tracy: Lightning round of questions.
Anne Stedman: Oh.
Jennifer Tracy: Ocean or desert.
Anne Stedman: Ocean.
Jennifer Tracy: Favorite junk food.
Anne Stedman: Queso.
Jennifer Tracy: Oh God girl.
Anne Stedman: Texas-
Jennifer Tracy: Now, okay. This is very important-
Anne Stedman: ..., and I'm from San Antonio, Texas. Oh yum. Mexican food is so different, and delicious.
Jennifer Tracy: Where do you get your queso from here? What's the best queso-
Anne Stedman: That's not [crosstalk 00:46:51]-
Jennifer Tracy: Do you get the jar?
Anne Stedman: No. No.
Jennifer Tracy: Okay. Oh, okay.
Anne Stedman: No.
Jennifer Tracy: She's repulsed like, [crosstalk 00:46:58].
Anne Stedman: There's one really ghetto one that's edible-
Jennifer Tracy: Give it, I need it.
Anne Stedman: It's the one everyone knows. I can do a Velveeta with Rotel. I can do it. I could do that. It's totally disgusting processed cheese, but it is really yummy-
Jennifer Tracy: It tastes good. It tastes good. I go to HomeState occasionally. They don't have one over here. They should open one. HomeState, you should open one in the Valley. But, their queso is the best I've ever tasted.
Anne Stedman: I've never tried it. Are we serious right now?
Jennifer Tracy: I think you might need to drive to Los Feliz. I know it's far, but it's-
Anne Stedman: No it's not that far-
Jennifer Tracy: Their tacos are, oh... It's really good-
Anne Stedman: [crosstalk 00:47:34] have to go there.
Jennifer Tracy: There three Texas girls, they're triplets from Texas.
Anne Stedman: That's good times. Okay, good to know.
Jennifer Tracy: They're amazing. You might know them. You might even-
Anne Stedman: I'd be like, "Oh my gosh."
Jennifer Tracy: Yeah. You never know. Texas is a huge state, but it is a small [crosstalk 00:47:48]-
Anne Stedman: Everyone's like, "Do you know..." I'm like-
Jennifer Tracy: Texas is giant.
Anne Stedman: It takes days to drive through, but, okay. Yeah.
Jennifer Tracy: Queso. Okay. All right. Movies or Broadway show?
Anne Stedman: Movies.
Jennifer Tracy: Daytime sex or nighttime sex.
Anne Stedman: Oh, well both boys were daytime.
Jennifer Tracy: Essentially.
Anne Stedman: I mean, if my boys listen to this, like...
Jennifer Tracy: Well, I remember once my parents, we were talking about... I think I was a teenager. I was 12 or 13. Well, my voice got really low all of a sudden, like Suzanne Pleshette. I now I'm dating myself. Our younger listeners are going to be like, "Who? Who's Suzanne Pleshette?"
Anne Stedman: Who? What? Where?
Jennifer Tracy: My dad, I just remember him. We were talking about... Something came up where they were... "Oh my God. Is that your wedding picture?"
Anne Stedman: It is. We were babies.
Jennifer Tracy: Oh my God. You're on the beach.
Anne Stedman: We're on the beach.
Jennifer Tracy: So pretty. Sorry, see. I get so distracted. I'm like, "A shiny thing. It's pretty. Let's talk about that." I remember my dad just saying, "We only did it once, and we both wore bags over our heads Jennifer. Don't worry."
Anne Stedman: Good to know. Good to know.
Jennifer Tracy: My dad's crazy-
Anne Stedman: Sounds amazing.
Jennifer Tracy: Yeah. It sounds romantic. Cat person or dog person.
Anne Stedman: Dog person. I used to have a pug, little Chloe. She was almost 18.
Jennifer Tracy: Oh, good girl-
Anne Stedman: Good girl-
Jennifer Tracy: She lived a long life-
Anne Stedman: Now I have beautiful, Skies.
Jennifer Tracy: Skies-
Anne Stedman: She's a golden retriever.
Jennifer Tracy: [inaudible 00:49:20].
Anne Stedman: So cute.
Jennifer Tracy: Oh my God.
Anne Stedman: I'm a dog person.
Jennifer Tracy: Oh yeah, me too. Have you ever worn a unitard?
Anne Stedman: When I was eight.
Jennifer Tracy: That's very specific. You only [crosstalk 00:49:31]-
Anne Stedman: I did dance class when I was eight. No, I'm sure it was a little longer, but around that age.
Jennifer Tracy: You were in dance. Did you do ballet, tap and jazz-
Anne Stedman: Yeah.
Jennifer Tracy: Yeah. Me too-
Anne Stedman: I wasn't that great at it.
Jennifer Tracy: I don't believe that.
Anne Stedman: No. No. I love dancing. But when I'm forced to dance a particular way it was a little... Yeah.
Jennifer Tracy: Yeah. Shower or bathtub?
Anne Stedman: Depends on my mood.
Jennifer Tracy: Yeah. Both have their value. Yeah.
Anne Stedman: Yes.
Jennifer Tracy: Ice cream or chocolate.
Anne Stedman: That's a hard one. I'm going to go...
Jennifer Tracy: You are tortured with that.
Anne Stedman: It's a very difficult question.
Jennifer Tracy: Sophie's choice.
Anne Stedman: Oh my God. Chocolate.
Jennifer Tracy: What kind of chocolate?
Anne Stedman: All.
Jennifer Tracy: Okay. On a scale of one to 10, how good are you at ping pong?
Anne Stedman: We have a ping pong table, and I suck.
Jennifer Tracy: I thought you were going to say, "I'm amazing."
Anne Stedman: All the boys in the house love it. It's their bonding. It's very cute.
Jennifer Tracy: What's your biggest pet peeve?
Anne Stedman: People who say one thing and do another. Drives me crazy.
Jennifer Tracy: Yeah. If you could push a button and have perfect skin for the rest of your life, which you kind of already do.
Anne Stedman: No.
Jennifer Tracy: Yeah. But it would also give you incurable halitosis for the rest of your life, would you push it-
Anne Stedman: Jesus. No.
Jennifer Tracy: I had one person answer yes.
Anne Stedman: What? That's super weird.
Jennifer Tracy: She was like, "This is really hard, but yes." Super power choice. Invisibility, ability to fly or super strength.
Anne Stedman: It's always been flying.
Jennifer Tracy: Oh.
Anne Stedman: I mean I get jealous of the birds. I'm like, "Where are you going?"
Jennifer Tracy: Are you an air sign? When's your birthday?
Anne Stedman: I'm a Capricorn.
Jennifer Tracy: Okay.
Anne Stedman: I don't think that's a yes.
Jennifer Tracy: I don't even know. I don't know why I asked that. As if I know anything about...
Anne Stedman: I'm almost an Aquarius, if that means anything. But, when you read a Capricorn, I'm kind of right there.
Jennifer Tracy: You're textbook?
Anne Stedman: Not textbook, but there are some, Ahas.
Jennifer Tracy: Yeah. Got it.
Anne Stedman: Yes.
Jennifer Tracy: So funny. Would you rather have a penis where your tailbone is-
Anne Stedman: Stop it. Is this happening?
Jennifer Tracy: ... or a third eye?" Allyson, literally, when I asked this question, she was... I totally lost her. I got her back, but then she was [crosstalk 00:51:46]-
Anne Stedman: She's like, "I'm done. It's a wrap."
Jennifer Tracy: "What is this podcast? What [crosstalk 00:51:48]-"
Anne Stedman: What's happening?
Jennifer Tracy: Yeah. "I don't trust you anymore. I don't like you anymore."
Anne Stedman: I'll take a third eyeball so I can check out what my kids are doing.
Jennifer Tracy: Yes. Good. Okay. What was the name of your first pet?
Anne Stedman: There was Fuzzy one, Fuzzy two, Fuzzy three, Fuzzy, up to like 15. I had a lot of hamsters, and they pass often, so I would just keep, "Nope, that's fuzzy. Same coloring. Same everything."
Jennifer Tracy: Okay. Fuzzy. What was the name of the street you grew up on?
Anne Stedman: Temptation.
Jennifer Tracy: No, it's not.
Anne Stedman: Yes it is.
Jennifer Tracy: No.
Anne Stedman: Yes it is.
Jennifer Tracy: Oh my God.
Anne Stedman: Temptation.
Jennifer Tracy: Your porn name is Fuzzy Temptation-
Anne Stedman: Fuzzy Temptation. Oh my God.
Jennifer Tracy: Oh my God, girl-
Anne Stedman: I think I've found a new profession.
Jennifer Tracy: That is gold. That's your second production company right there.
Anne Stedman: Fuzzy Temptation.
Jennifer Tracy: Fuzzy Temptation. I think there's a song in that. There's a book.
Anne Stedman: There's so much. So much to [crosstalk 00:52:47]-
Jennifer Tracy: There's a makeup line-
Anne Stedman: I have a whole-
Jennifer Tracy: ... there's a lingerie line-
Anne Stedman: ... nother path to go down now. Not porn.
Jennifer Tracy: No, I'm talking products.
Anne Stedman: Just products.
Jennifer Tracy: Just products.
Anne Stedman: Just product.
Jennifer Tracy: Yeah. Oh my God. I'm envisioning pink Marabou feathers on bra tops. All of it.
Anne Stedman: Oh my poor parents [crosstalk 00:53:08] listen to this-
Jennifer Tracy: You're going to have... No. But, this is where the creative juices fly. There's going to be a Fuzzy Temptations café.
Anne Stedman: For sure. I mean, what do you give people?
Jennifer Tracy: Mojitos with little feather bowers wrapped around their waist-
Anne Stedman: Oh. It's good times. It's good times.
Jennifer Tracy: Anne you're so amazing. Thank you so much-
Anne Stedman: This was so much fun. Thank you. It's been a delight.
Jennifer Tracy: It's been so fun.
Jennifer Tracy: Thanks so much for listening guys. I really hope you enjoyed my conversation with Anne. Join me next week when we have Tiffany Chambers on the show. Tiffany is a... Well I'm actually going to leave it as a surprise, but she works with bodies, women's bodies, and she has like a million credentials. She is a mom of two, and she also is just an incredible badass, beyond. Deeply, deeply badass. Yeah, it's going to be great, and you're going to learn so much stuff from it that you can use in your life, and your body, and your body's rehabilitation, which we all need, right? Especially the older we get ladies. Anyway, I love you all. Thank you so much for listening to the show. I can't wait to bring you another fresh episode of MILF podcast next week.